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Rochester Ferry coming to portlands

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Posted to Toronto Waterfront by: Martin Koob on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 @ 8:32 am

There is a fast ferry project in the works between Rochester, New York and Toronto. I thought that this ferry was just an idea being floated about, but it seems it is in the water and undergoing sea trials. A web site from the ferry's operators Canadian American Transportation Systems is tracking the progress of the ferry project and is gearing up for a spring 2004 launch. www.catsfastferry.com

There is a lot of discussion about this project in Rochester. The local news paper the Democrat and Chronicle has a section of their web site dedicated to the Fast Ferry Project. Fast Ferry News.

As you read these news stories you learn that the plan is for the ferry is to dock in the portlands just west of Cherry Beach. The Toronto Port Authority has a link on their web site indicating that there is a Request for Proposals for a Ferry Terminal Building International Ferry Passenger Terminal Project Information. This appears to be going ahead without any public consultation or consideration regarding the impact the ferry service will have on Cherry Beach, Toronto Island and the portlands area. The Ferry may be a great thing for Toronto and Torontonians, but there are two questions that should be answered at public consultations before this goes ahead. One, is the best place to dock the ferry next to Cherry Beach? If it is the second question is what problems come with the ferry and how can they be mitigated?

The Ferry will carry 220 cars / 750 passengers and is scheduled to make 3 trips per day. If the Ferry Terminal Building is located on the Toronto Port Authority's Property next to Cherry Beach the traffic onto and off of the ferry will have to go through the intersection of Cherry Street and Unwin Avenue.

Toronto Port Map
Image from TPA's web site. Click image to go to Toronto Port Authority's Map page

Have there been transportation studies done on the impact in the area? Where will cars line up to board the ferry 3 times per day? The Martin Goodman Trail runs along Cherry Street and crosses it at one point. Has the impact on the trail and cyclists been considered. These are concerns that should be addressed before the Ferry starts up. I have not been able to find any indication that consultations have been done.

While there has been little discussion in Toronto about this project there has been much in Rochester. A quick web search reveals that there are some who are raising concerns about environmental issues posed by the ferry. An article on the possible impacts of a fast ferry can be found at the following link. www.ggw.org/RochesterEnvironment/fast_ferry.htm Some of these issues outlined in the above article are noise pollution, wake damage, interference with other boat traffic, impact on wildlife, and problems that arise when the powerful propulsion system of the ferry stirs up lake bottom sediments.

Hopefully there will be an opportunity for residents to find out what is being planned and also to raise any concerns they have with the project.

Martin Koob
tcc-rep@tbn.ca
Article Comments:
While concerns of a possible negative environmental impact from the new Rochester-Toronto fast ferry may be legitimate (in addition to positive impacts) it seems to me that BikeToronto’s questions should be more focussed on cycling.

Some cycling related questions are:

What will the policy be for transporting bikes on the ferry?
What facilities will be on board for carriage of bicycles?
Fare structure?
Showers?
What will be the exit/entry strategy be for cyclists for the ferry boat?

One question Bike Toronto did raise was the issue of intermittent volumes of cars using a road that crosses the Martin Goodwin Trail. Multi-use trails are always a concern where they intersect with roads since users of these paths (in-line skaters, walkers and cyclists) can be be lulled into a false sense of security by their very existence. But I doubt this is the only location where the Martin Goodwin Trail intersects with a street or lane. The only difference here might be in the volume of cars at a given time (or the volume of cyclists who might use the ferry?). But such few periods with large slow moving volumes of car traffic would seem to present less of a risk than at other existing intersections. No doubt this larger total volume will lead to road improvements, construction of parking lots etc. How will this effect cyclists’ ability to access all roads, not just one limited destination multi–use recreational path?

In the recent Toronto Municipal election one of BikeToronto's questions to candidates was whether they supported initiatives to promote Toronto as a bicycle tourism destination. I understood that the authors of the questionnaire agreed this was a good idea, as did the responding candidates. Doesn't that include getting here?
Margot
  Posted by: MJorgensen on 26-Nov-2003 at 12:53 pm

The comments raised by MJorgensen are good ones. There are other questions that should be raised in terms of access to the ferry service by cyclists. I think there is potential for the ferry to attract bike tourists to Toronto. It would also provide Toronto cyclists a chance to try some new cycling destinations with out using a car to get there. Again, this is why there should be public consultations held before this goes ahead. This is where these questions could be asked. Consultations would provide a chance for people to identify potential problems or opportunities and then for the proponents of the project or City officials to find solutions to these problems or alternately find ways to take advantage of these opportunities.
  Posted by: Martin Koob on 30-Nov-2003 at 12:13 pm

I've emailed the ferry folks about bikes a couple of times, and noticed today that the website has recently been updated to include bicycle fares: $15 and $10 US for bikes with and without trailers, respectively. That would seem to be in addition to the walk-on passenger fare. Two bikes and riders would total $77 US each way, while the same trip for two people in a car would be $80. It hardly seems fair.

Still no word about on-board facilities, but at least they seem to be aware that cyclists might put the ferry to good use.
  Posted by: dodge on 04-Dec-2003 at 10:48 pm